[spoonful]

I wonder if lexus will explore the possibility of an RC200T? My rationale being that BMW now sells the 428i with a 2.0T, while still having the 6 cylinder in the 435i. You have to figure that the RC200T would be a nice addition to the lineup to help them reach down market, not to mention being highly satisfying to the European market, a place Lexus NEEDS to succeed....

Oh and Lexus did just debut a new 2.0T in the Lexus NX...

food for thought or a shot in the dark

 

[soarer]

It would be a good idea, im sure there are those that want the looks, features, etc that comes with a luxury coupe but care less for performance, they just want to go from A to B.

 

[Lex Luther]

It seems like there are signs that this could be possible and a good business move. It certainly would be nice to give people with a little less money the chance to buy into the brand. If the engine is already available, I think they'll do it unless one of you guys can think of a reason why they can't.

 

[soarer]

It seems like there are signs that this could be possible and a good business move. It certainly would be nice to give people with a little less money the chance to buy into the brand. If the engine is already available, I think they'll do it unless one of you guys can think of a reason why they can't.

also sounds like a good idea to me too but how much cheaper do you think it can be than the RC350?

 

[Lex Luther]

I mean we don't have a price for the RC 350 yet so its a bit hard to say. It just depends if there is enough room to price a cheaper RC under the RC 350 model. Whatever they price this cheaper model of the RC can't get into the territory of Toyota vehicles.

 

[spoonful]

Sure, but consider that Lexus wants to branch out in Europe, they have nearly no presence there. I'm off the opinion that there is no way Lexus is going to establish themselves in Europe by offering only the hybrid, an old and thirsty 3.5L V6 and an even thirstier 5.0L V8. BMW and Audi both sell 2.0T's and even diesel models...

 

[soarer]

Sure, but consider that Lexus wants to branch out in Europe, they have nearly no presence there. I'm off the opinion that there is no way Lexus is going to establish themselves in Europe by offering only the hybrid, an old and thirsty 3.5L V6 and an even thirstier 5.0L V8. BMW and Audi both sell 2.0T's and even diesel models...

Hybrid and Diesel and they should have no problem selling this in Europe.

 

[rwdftw]

lexus 2.0T is not powerful enough to run something like the RC at any respectable performance numbers

 

[spoonful]

lexus 2.0T is not powerful enough to run something like the RC at any respectable performance numbers

Oh yea, since when? This is the first 2.0T Lexus has ever used. I'm actually not even sure what the base of the NX's 2.0T is. If I had to guess I would say its either an evolution of the 1AZ-FSE 2.0L used in the RAV4, or perhaps its the Atkinson cycler derivative the 2AZ-FXE.

We do know the NX 2.0T uses VVT to advance and retard valve timing between Otto and Atkinson cycles.

Lexus saying the 2.0T will kick out well north of 200hp. They're also on record saying the 2.0T will match the 3.5 V6's torque figure, so expect 277 ft-lbs. if its say 240 hp/277 ft-lbs, I won't complain...

 

[soarer]

Those power figures being 240 hp and 277 tq are good numbers, enough for something in this segment.

 

[rwdftw]

Oh yea, since when? This is the first 2.0T Lexus has ever used. I'm actually not even sure what the base of the NX's 2.0T is. If I had to guess I would say its either an evolution of the 1AZ-FSE 2.0L used in the RAV4, or perhaps its the Atkinson cycler derivative the 2AZ-FXE.

We do know the NX 2.0T uses VVT to advance and retard valve timing between Otto and Atkinson cycles.

Lexus saying the 2.0T will kick out well north of 200hp. They're also on record saying the 2.0T will match the 3.5 V6's torque figure, so expect 277 ft-lbs. if its say 240 hp/277 ft-lbs, I won't complain...

ehh we will see.

i dont see the 2.0T being a 3.5L V6 replacement but more of the 2.5L V6 replacement.

which means its going to be SLOW

just like the 4 cylinder in the 3 and 4 series.. Its pretty slow in all honesty

 

[spoonful]

ehh we will see.

i dont see the 2.0T being a 3.5L V6 replacement but more of the 2.5L V6 replacement.

which means its going to be SLOW

just like the 4 cylinder in the 3 and 4 series.. Its pretty slow in all honesty

the new 2.0T in the 428i has plenty of pep, even better in the 228i The 2.5L is an antiquated engine, thats why its unable to deliver performance or a semblance of fuel economy. These high tech new engines allow manufacturers to at least attempt to offer both priorities...

 

[rwdftw]

what are the specs on the 428i?

 

[soarer]

what are the specs on the 428i?

this is all i was able to find:

2.0-liter BMW TwinPower Turbo inline 4-cylinder, 16-valve 240-hp engine. Combines a twin-scroll turbocharger with variable valve control (Double-VANOS and Valvetronic) and high-precision direct injection

 

[spoonful]

428i Auto Trans

3470 lbs
240 hp
255 lb-ft

14.4 lbs/HP

 

[rwdftw]

not breaking any records but not bad for a 4 cylinder ecobox

 

[soarer]

At least torque numbers are up, next I think we need to see a dyno chart just to see where power is really at. Most interested in seeing what it's like on the low end.

 

[spoonful]

power figures for Lexus 2.0T came out today. In the Lexus NX its been rated at 235 hp and 258 ft-lbs of torque. I think its safe to assume that its a touch detuned for grocery getting duty. An engine like that in the RC could easily crack 250 hp/270 ft-lbs...

 

[spoonful]

ok some more info on the 2.0T. Engine code is 8AR-FTS, it makes use of a twin scroll turbo and generates peak power and torque at 4000 RPM. Its also been equipped with stop/start...

 

[rwdftw]

nice. thanks for sharing!